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 Post subject: Brake Upgrade
PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:37 pm 
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Whats your location?: Ballyfermot, Dublin 10
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Hi All,
Im looking to upgrade the brakes on the Clubman GT. Its still standard brakes on it, which are scary to say the least! What would be the best to go for? I would want whatever would be the best brakes, so I am open to suggestions, as well as prices. Its running on 10s.

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 Post subject: Re: Brake Upgrade
PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:53 pm 
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What Minis have you?: Mini miglea 1480cc

81' clubby estate
Location: Greystones,co Wicklow
Probably KAD 4 pots but not that cheap


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 Post subject: Re: Brake Upgrade
PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 5:09 pm 
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Alot of people swear by the minispares 4 pot alloy calipers, I found them to be great calipers and a cheaper option that the KADs.

http://www.minispares.com/Product.aspx? ... 325&title=

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 Post subject: Re: Brake Upgrade
PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 5:33 pm 
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Whats your location?: Stepaside, Dublin
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What Minis have you?: Mk1 Racer and Mk2 CKD
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You'd be surprised what a brake rebuild and a good set of pads will do!

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 Post subject: Re: Brake Upgrade
PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 5:38 pm 
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Thanks for the replies guys. In relation to the minispares ones, is it a case of buying that kit than 4 vented discs? That would be around £500, so around €700, plus another bit on top for installation?

I was going to look at a rebuild, but my thinking is, spend the money now and save in the long run..

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 Post subject: Re: Brake Upgrade
PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 5:43 pm 
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I have 100bhp engine in my Mini with Cooper S brakes and dont find myself wanting/needing more braking power. If i do, ill upgrade to a set of Carbon Lorraine pads which are meant to be amazing.

Braking power comes down to your tires too though. I run a set of Avons on mine which probably help with the brakes on my car.

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 Post subject: Re: Brake Upgrade
PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 5:54 pm 
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Whats your location?: Ballyfermot, Dublin 10
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I need to check the tyres actually. They have decent grip. I've had a few scary moments braking, so wanted something better!

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 Post subject: Re: Brake Upgrade
PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:44 pm 
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Whats your location?: Leopardstown
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Cheap option that works (I have done it so I know) new pistons, seals and fast road pads . :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Brake Upgrade
PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:33 pm 
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Whats your location?: Ballyfermot, Dublin 10
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Any ideas where I can get it done? I'm not very good at any mechanical stuff :-)

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 Post subject: Re: Brake Upgrade
PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:57 pm 
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Whats your location?: THE FRIDGE I TOLD YE!!
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What Minis have you?: 110bhp 1968 mkII
Modifications: no more custom flakey paint, now new custom crevice paintwork
Location: The Fridge
I run a set of KAD 4 pots on my own mini and ran them for ages with greenstuff pads in but was never overly impressed with the brakes from cold, and heating them to the right temperature took a little spirited driving,
i changed to Carbone Lorraine pads a while back on a suggestion from Merlin (Paul Hickey, Hickey race engineering) He'd be the man to do it for you too!
and Oh My God! do they work well!
the first time i stood on the brakes i nearly flipped the car!

from this and taking into account that you have already got the standard set up, my suggestion to you would be to get your existing set up rebuilt and get a set of Carbone Lorraine pads, i think that would be more than enough to stop you whenever you wanted :D

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 Post subject: Re: Brake Upgrade
PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:57 pm 
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Whats your location?: Bray
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What Minis have you?: 1430 Cooper
Modifications: Not enough!
Location: Bray
Are ya able to get the Carbone Lorraine pads for 8.4" setup?
Where ya getting them? Mini spares dont seem to have them!

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 Post subject: Re: Brake Upgrade
PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:02 pm 
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Whats your location?: Longford
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What Minis have you?: 1971 Mini Marcos.
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Location: Longford
http://www.cl-brakes.co.uk/carbone-lorr ... -pads.html

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 Post subject: Re: Brake Upgrade
PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:24 pm 
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Whats your location?: THE FRIDGE I TOLD YE!!
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What Minis have you?: 110bhp 1968 mkII
Modifications: no more custom flakey paint, now new custom crevice paintwork
Location: The Fridge
http://www.cl-brakes.com/catalogues/auto.php

for a full listing of applications from CL brakes :D

mini cooper s - year,63-71 - 5001W43T14

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 Post subject: Re: Brake Upgrade
PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:21 am 
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What Minis have you?: Mk1 Austin Mini,Mk3 Layland Mini,72Van,81 Clubman Estate, 87 Race carand a 2000 Rover Cooper.
Modifications: Mk1: 998 with flat top slipper pistons, 286 cam, 12G940 head 11:1 compression twin inch and a half SU's 5 speed gearbox. Mk3 998 automatic no mods, 72Van is a pile of rust, , Racer is being built but has the works and the 2000 rover cooper needs an engine again :(
Location: Dublin
I have Carbon Lorraine pads in stock for, KAD 4 pot, mini Sparea 4 pots, Cooper S 7.9,
mini 8.4. I have All the abouve in CR5 which is fast road/ track day pad. They are quite expensive but very worth wile.

I have fitted them to 8 road going minis At the moment and all reports are a masive improvment in braking from cold.

If your intrested in a set give me a call and we can sort you out,
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 Post subject: Re: Brake Upgrade
PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:53 am 
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What Minis have you?: Mk3 100bhp all 70s spec
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Location: Lisburn
as most peps are saying the s discs are up to the job.
on my 110BHP mini i had a set of rebuilt s discs, nothing fancy, no servo, ran the carbon pads and the road legal track day tyres.
put alot of cars to shame around nutts and Kirkistown.

As with everything else, before you upgrade, get what you have properly sorted first and then see if you feel the need to upgrade.

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 Post subject: Re: Brake Upgrade
PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:17 pm 
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I have Carbone Lorraine pads on my bike, great pads compared to the standard, dont have them on the mini though, always found the standard servo and standard 8.4 setup to be more than adequate for me. Although my mates say they are shite, and I say the brakes in their civic etc are a bit too strong, just a matter of getting used to them i suppose if your coming from a more modern set up..


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 Post subject: Re: Brake Upgrade
PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:18 pm 
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Whats your location?: Dún Laoghaire, Dublin
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What Minis have you?: '93 SPi cooper
Location: Dún Laoghaire, Dublin
how are the C-L pads like for dust?

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 Post subject: Re: Brake Upgrade
PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:01 pm 
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What Minis have you?: Mk1 Austin Mini,Mk3 Layland Mini,72Van,81 Clubman Estate, 87 Race carand a 2000 Rover Cooper.
Modifications: Mk1: 998 with flat top slipper pistons, 286 cam, 12G940 head 11:1 compression twin inch and a half SU's 5 speed gearbox. Mk3 998 automatic no mods, 72Van is a pile of rust, , Racer is being built but has the works and the 2000 rover cooper needs an engine again :(
Location: Dublin
They are no more dusty than any of the performance brake pads out there.


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 Post subject: Re: Brake Upgrade
PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:08 am 
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Whats your location?: Drogheda
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What Minis have you?: Traveller
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Location: LOUTH
Are you running a servo and if so have you cheaked its working properly. Tyres are just as important as brakes for stoping quickly.

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